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Re: [lojban] Internal grammar of UI, NAI and CAI



2015-07-23 1:38 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

2015-07-21 23:47 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
"ri'e", yes. Not so sure about "zo'o" though. It's usually used as standalone, and your grammar doesn't allow ROhA to stand by itself.

Yes, {zo'o} can't stand for itself. It is described as a modifier of interjections so I ban it here.
When people use {zo'o} alone then according to altatufa ideology it implies that interjection core was elided. altatufa 
autorestores {ju'a} in such cases leading to {ju'a zo'o}.

I don't know, what about things that are not assertions:

-  zo'o do se nazbi xo da

{ju'a do se nuzba xo da} - what's the problem with it?



-  zo'o ko citka ta

I think this is wrong if we expand {ko} into {do ko'oi}. Then we get two attitudinals not connected to each other. Hence the meaning would be "I state that you eat it (kidding). [Please], eat it!"


I think "zo'o" is more like "le'o", "vu'e", "ga'i", a stance, a mental or emotional position adopted by the speaker. What are the arguments to make it an interjection modifier?

Because it's defined as such? If due to misusage it became a full interjection that's another question. But as a modifier it's much more powerful. Otherwise how can we modify attitudinals? Besides, I just don't see how it can work on its own except when you assume that you elide the interjection root.


This can be tested using the current stable version of altatufa:

It doesn't seem to work for me. 
What did you try to enter?
 

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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