Le lundi 6 novembre 2017 09:32:10 UTC, Benoit Neil a écrit :
doi la .aionys.
.i ki'e u'ucru'e mi punai djuno fe la .byfy.
I must say I did not read enough through the various pages to reach that info.
Anyway, if you say the BPFK works as I described, then I feel it's good news. However:
- From afar, CLL seems a bit "stuck" at 1.1. Am I right? Do you think there would be some 1.x before 2.0 (ie. minor updates)?
You will find issues for CLL 1.2 here:
https://github.com/lojban/cll/milestone/12
The issues were already discussed by past lojbanists, and Cirko worked on introducing them into the next version of CLL. Gleki asked BPFK members for approval of them, and no one responded:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bpfk-list/jqVDF5z9LqA
I, as a member of BPFK, am responsible for approving them, but I did not have enough time for that. Even if I have time for that, I can't imagine that I can approve any English texts written by an native English speaker because I'm very poor at English.
You can freely approve them even if you are not a member of BPFK. If you want to do it as a member of BPFK, just post a message in Lojban to "bpfk-list" Google Group at the URL above, saying that you want to be a member, and you will be admitted.
- As I said on #ckule (IRC), it might be a good idea to write on the front page the version of the CLL and its release date ;-)
I agree.
- Are some "betas" / "working branches" available (or will be available), so that people get a chance to have a look at before the official release?
- Do you have in mind any plausible releases dates? I'm not asking for a contractual thing, of course! Just to have a vague idea in mind.
You should find many branches at the github repository above. I have never contributed to the repository for some reasons:
- the repository is governed by "the Lojban Coders' Group". I regard it as a kind of unofficial fans' group. Although the Group owns many official or pre-official contents, the owner(s) and the contributors are not equal to the members of BPFK or LLG. I am a member of BPFK and LLG, and I have never invited as a collaborator or an owner of the group. I once made a small pull request to another repository of the group, but it was ignored for almost one year.
- I made some efforts on bpfk-list to remove grammatical difficulties or important logical defects, but we had always a stubborn defender of the current state. You can find such discussions with no conclusion in the bpfk-list Google Group above. Consequently, I have lost hope in updating CLL, and shifted myself to create a large personal commentary on the whole CLL ver.1.1.
Aside from that, and from my novice point of view, it seems that forks do exist and seem significant. Isn't it a signal, asking for more updates in the official CLL? Or do you feel that some people forking are simply impatient having their proposals integrated? What is your point of view?
lo'ai fi sa'ai fu le'ai ie pei
i ji'a e'u lo'ai me'a lu .abu. pa li'u sa'ai li .abu pi'e pa le'ai ie pei
.i ganai la .lojban. pe mi toldra gi e'o o'anai ko dragau
(I self-evaluate my Lojban level as being less than A1, as for
the CEFR. Please correct my Lojban if I'm wrong!)
i na'i ma'i mi na'e toldra i po'o .au sajgau do lo xauzma be fi mi
mi'e la guskant