xorxes' idea of UI, as interpreted (was Re: [bpfk] Re: The Case for UI.)

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:19:35PM +0200, Daniel Brockman wrote:
> > So... I can tell this has already been shot out of the water. =D
> >
> > Any serious opinions either way?
> 
> You don't think xorxes's opinion (all emotional indicators are
> vague as to whether the sentence is an assertion or a
> hypothetical, although some are usually used with hypothetical
> sentences due to the emotion most often occurring simultaneously
> as someone compares alternate universes, and some are usually used
> with assertions due to the emotion usually occurring as someone
> experiences or thinks about a fact, and you can always force one
> or the other using {da'i} or {ju'a}) is a serious one? Which by
> the way xalbo already seconded and incidentally I happen to agree
> with and find a very elegant and lucid way of defining these
> semantics.
> 
> I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that most experienced
> Lojbanists would probably agree with xorxes's definitions once
> they'd read and understood them and would probably benefit from
> doing so.

I have a weird relationship with xorxes' suggestions; they almost
always offend me at first and then impress me later.  :)  This time
I supressed the former response and tried to think of it on its
merits.

It's a little bit like the whole "CAhA when unspecified is
undefined" thing, which is disturbing in that it means that any
sentence could be false-to-fact without declaring so, but the
principle of non-gluteality applies better in this case than in that
one.

I think I like it.

I'd like to hear other oldbies' opinions.  Especially if xorxes and
xalbo actually agree with the phrasing above.

-Robin

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