Re: [bpfk] BPFK work

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have an easy fix for that specific example. I believe I've mentioned it
> before.
>
> Preface your speech with {.i}.

But that's my point, if you make ".i" obligatory before every
utterance, you are changing the language. (And the formal grammar will
still not be able to identify where one speaker ends and another
begins, so it still cannot generate a conversation from the input.)

If all you are saying is that using ".i" makes for a certain kind of
exchanges to be mushable into one long text and the result is most
often still grammatical and (somewhat) similar to what was intended by
the speakers, then sure, that's true. But that has nothing to do with
the formal grammar, it's just one style that you prefer, because you
happen to like conversations that can be mushed into a single text.
The style I proposed, starting every utterance with "ni'o mi'e <name
of speaker>" is even more precise if you want that kind of precision.

> Then it becomes
>
> A: .i do klama ma
> B: .i lo zarci
>
> Amazingly, this rule tells you how to separate the single input ".i do klama
> ma .i lo zarci" into the two strings produced by A and B,

No, there is no way for the formal grammar to tell it came from two
different speakers, unless you also make it a rule that a speaker can
only produce one bridi at a time.

> isn't based on any
> heuristics or voice recognition, and is already part of the formal grammar!
> Huzzah!
>
> Which is yet another reason why I frown on the practice of /not/ beginning
> one's speech with one of {.i}, {ni'o}, or {no'i}, and .lojbab. apparently is
> in agreement with me.

But why don't you also frown on the practice of not beginning with ".i
mi'e <name>". You are not consistent in your frowning.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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