Re: [bpfk] type-3 fu'ivla with different kinds of rafsi

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Wednesday 27 October 2010 13:41:36 John Cowan wrote:
> > Also two
> > type-3 fu'ivla formed with different rafsi of the same gismu and the same
> > foreign part, such as "fiprgado" and "finprgado", should be the same
> > word,
>
> Bah.  Not worth it.  I'd sooner redefine "djarspageti" as a type 4.

Irrelevant. "djarspageti" does not begin with CVC, CCVC, or CVCC. I don't 
think "fi'ergado" should be equivalent to "finprgado"; I think it should be a 
type-4. I do think that "fiprgado" should be equivalent to "finprgado".

> > Since one can follow the rules with CVV or CCV and get slinku'i or lujvo
> > such as "sparklematsi" or "naurboi", fu'ivla beginning with CVV or CCV
> > should be removed from type 3 and the rules rewritten accordingly.
>
> The Book already warns that the type-3 rules aren't reliable with 3-letter
> rafsi.

The rules are reliable with CVC rafsi, but not with CCV or CVV. A type-3 
beginning with a CVC rafsi begins with CVC followed by two letters (RC) that 
cannot appear at the beginning of a brivla. Since a rafsi cannot begin with 
RC, CVCRC... is not a lujvo. Since a brivla cannot begin with CRC, CV cannot 
fall off. And since CVCRC does not begin with CCV, it is not a slinku'i.

I think that the wording should be changed from "CCV and CVV aren't reliable" 
to "CCV and CVV aren't used to make type-3". Once we have fixed all the 
inconsistencies, of course.

Pierre
-- 
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