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Re: [bpfk] Finishing the BPFK sections



Similar issues with Directional Spatial, particularly {fa'a}. I suggest "When tagging a sumti, the event is oriented toward that sumti" to make it clear that only the location of the tagged sumti is relevant, not its own orientation. Unless something else was actually meant, in which case it's actively misleading.

Likewise, for {to'o}, "When tagging a sumti, the event is oriented away from that sumti."


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to see some of the Non-Contact Spatials spelled out a little more clearly. In particular, I think the intention is that {ri'u ko'a broda} assumes that {ko'a} has an orientation, and that the event of {broda}-ing is to {ko'a}'s right, and that the speaker's location and orientation are irrelevant, but that point is not entirely clear from the definition as stated. If I'm facing north and you're to the north of me, facing south back at me, then a dog between us to the east is "to the right of you" from my point of view, but also "to your left". .i gerku ri'u je'i zu'a do

Same question for {ca'u} and {ti'a}. "In front of X" can mean "between me and X" ("a shadow passed in front of the moon"), or it could mean "in the direction that X is facing". Both should be expressible, and the definitions need to be unambiguously one or the other. 


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:13 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
mi cusku di'e
Happy voting!

By the way, I think the only debatable point in all those sections is the cmavo {ne'a}, which has two popular meanings/uses. Those meanings are {fi'o se zvajbi} i.e. "near/in the vicinity of", and {fi'o se mlana} "on the side of". The former is compatible with the latter, but not vice-versa.

Some corpus examples:

http://corpus.lojban.org/corpus/search/ne%27a


mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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