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Re: [bpfk] extended rafsi and a tosmabru/slinku'i boondoggle


On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:48 AM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:
Jorge Llambías scripsit:

> Yep. An intermediate possibility would be to keep the rafsi system,
> but discard the slinku'i exception. That would make the rules for
> brivla recognition much simpler, so that for example slinku'i and sporte
> would be valid fu'uvla, at the cost of requiring "y" in some more CVC-
> initial lujvo.

That's exactly what Loglan has done.  Lujvo suffer a little, fu'ivla
benefit a little. 

And simplicity of morphology benefits a lot.
 
For that matter, we could take an even simpler approach
and just say that CVCy- is always required initially in words of three
or more syllables.

I don't know, I see some disadvantages with that. There are many more CVC-lujvo that start with CVC/C than with CVCC, including many frequent prefixes such as sel- and tol-, so requiring that additional -y- is much more onerous. Also, if linku'i is to be an invalid form, we would be getting rid of the slinku'i rule just to be replaced by the equally annoying linku'i rule, which wouldn't make any sense. If linku'i was to become a fu'ivla distinct from the lujvo linyku'i, I think that might be confusing. (Also problematic for brivla rafsi, which one gets the -ylinku'i'y- rafsi, given that CVC is not strictly word-initial there?) The camxes morphology already allows the -y- after CVC whether it's required or not, so anyone not sure about how tosmabru works can always stick with CVCy- without the need to make it required for everyone else.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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