Re: [bpfk] Month Names (WAS: official cmavo form)

2015-03-06 10:09 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:

Le vendredi 6 mars 2015 15:19:11 UTC+9, la gleki a écrit :

2015-03-06 3:18 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni...@gmail.com>:

My suggestion is based on {se detri}, and it does not restrict the calendar to Gregorian. When you set the catendar to {lo nau me mi}, you can use {masnpa} for "next month", or you can creat {maslni'upa} for "last month".
This will require some explanations in the grammar to avoid adding infinite number of such words to dictionaries.

It is already clear from the definitions of the words. Besides, I don't recommend such a usage as I said as below:

I mean if someone uses {maslni'upanonore} a nintadni listener wont be able to find this word in dictionaries.

Lojban is usually presented as an isolating language and newbies may not be prepared for agglutination.

However, using the series for that purpose is not very lojbo, because there are aleph-null number of months, and number of brivla should be finite, and lojban words should not conjugate. For such a purpose, we should use a cmavo of MOI like {moi'o}.

You seem to be confused with BAI. My suggestion is brivla based on {se detri} for recurring system.
BAI are usually shorter.

As for BAI, I've already suggested {de'i'V} series in my last two messages.

Moreover, your numbering system is European style, but I prefer ISO 8601 style. In both case, {pi'e}s are omissible. To make the meaning clearer, you can mention a phrase [noi sinxa lo nanca/masti/jeftu/djedi ku'o].

For me one number in {de'i} denotes day of month , two numbers D-M, three numbers D-M-Y, four numbers D-week number-M-Y.
Otherwise {de'i li pare} becomes ambiguous between Day 12 / December / Year 12 A.D.

The official definition of {de'i}/{detri} does not suggest that.

It was suggested in L4B:

http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/less5dates.html

{detri} based lujvo series discussed in my last message would help us out of the ambiguity between {nanca}-, {masti}-, {jeftu}-, {djedi}-types of {detri}_1.

I just prefer isolating style where one isn't required to learn numerous words but instead to combine already learnt words.

mu'o

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