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[jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 12
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- Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 12
- From: "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>
- Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 05:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
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>>>
>>> {natpa'i} already exists in jbovlaste:patriot; nationalist
>>> I would understand a {naijgi} to be a milder version of a {natpa'i}.
>>
>>I wouldn't think they would be mild vs strong, exactly. I'd think a
>>naijgi is someone who's proud of their nation, and a natpa'i is
>>someone who loves their nation. You might be naijgi without having
>>the depth of feeling to be natpa'i, so it could be milder in that
>>sense, but I'd think you could also be very natpa'i without being
>>naijgi, for instance if your nation which you deeply love is taking
>>actions about which you're ashamed. It seems to me they're both good
>>translations for "patriotic", depending on context, and it seems to me
>>a beautiful and useful distinction.
>>
Good point!! But, in that case, {natjgi} aligns better with
'patriot/nationalist' than
does {natpa'i} - if you support the idea that nationalists tend to support their
nations 'right ot wrong'.
Also, {natpa'i} would sem to be a super-set of {natjgi}.
totus