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[lojban-beginners] Re: tanru order



On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com> wrote:
>> When you have things like {vajni mutce} and {manku mulno}, you're
>> usually going to want to reverse those, right?
>
> Why? They would be something like {mutce be lo ka vajni} and
> {mulno be lo ka manku}. The expansion for the other order is
> perhaps also possible, but more compicated.

I'm not sure I was clear here. I simply meant to ask whether {mutce
vajni} and {mulno manku} would usually be the better order.

>> iseja'ebo na _vajni mutce_ fa le du'u porsi makau ki'u le nu abu ka'e
>> spuda no le re preti
>
>> But I think the first, since the x1 is
>> filled, is actually incorrect, since the fact is ke not important
>> ke'e, not ke not extreme ke'e.
>
> Its "not (extreme in importance)", isn't it?

Yes, where the "importance" is the main concept, and thus belongs in
the tertau. Can't {mutce vajni} naturally mean "extreme in importance"
in context?

Chris Capel
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