[lojban-beginners] Re: sei & to

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 4/11/09, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/4/11 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>>> And is this "toi" elidable: "lo broda to be da bei de cu brode"?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> That puts the elided "toi" at the end, after "brode", doesn't it?

No, between "de" and "cu", because "be da bei de cu brode" is not a
grammatical text. In this case "cu" will force a "toi" before it, like
it forces a "ku" and a "be'o":

 lo broda to be da bei de [be'o] [toi] [ku] cu brode [vau]

> I've always found elided "toi" at end of text an odd concept, but Timo
> has been using it very often on la .aidentikar. (identi.ca) and I've
> gotten used to it and even used it a few times myself.  He often
> writes "to bau la !lojban" (the ! makes it a group name) at the end
> without a closing "toi".  I usually put the closing "toi" -- and
> redundant parenthesis marks, like "(to bau la !lojban toi)" -- but
> I've left it off a few times, especially when running out of
> characters! :)

It leaves me waiting for something else, but it's not as bad as an
elided one in the middle of a text.

mu'o mi'e xorxes