[lojban-beginners] Re: Referring to selma'o in Lojban

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Luke Bergen<lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

"zo zei si zei bu"

> oh wow, that's a good one.  does the {zo} quote the {zei}

For camxes, yes.

>or since {zei} is
> "magic" does it take {zo} litterally?

Since "zo" came first, "zei" has been quoted and thus neutralized.

> Or does none of that happen because
> {si} says "nope, I didn't mean to say {zei} there".

"si" then deletes the preceding block.

The following "zei" will grab whatever came before and form a lujvo
with it and "bu". "bu" is inactive.

> Hmmm, that brings up a
> more general question for me.
>
> Does {si} juts erase a word or does it erase the word and any proto-text
> results of having said that word.

Just one word, unless a magic word has been in action.

> e.g. if I say {lo gerku goi ko'a si si}
> have I merely erased the words {goi ko'a} or have I erased the words and the
> pro-sumti assignment that resulted from their being spoken?

Just "goi ko'a".

> Or, if I say
> {mi klama lo zdani sa} and then someone else says {go'i} are they referring
> to {mi klama lo zdani} or whatever came before it?

It's not clear what "sa" does exactly, but "go'i" won't see anything
that has been erased.

mu'o mi'e xorxes