2009/10/5 Oren <get.oren@gmail.com>:
>>>The most literal translation of the English is "mi pu noroi viska daYou certainly can get Chinese-style topic-comment sentences. See
>>>poi na se nelci be mi" (I have up-to-now 0-times seen something which
>>>it was not true it is liked by me)
>>>
>>> --gejyspa
>
> ki'esai .i mulno ...(is there a lujvo for "comprehensive" or "thorough?"
> =p)
>
> that was just the explanation I was looking for!
>
> one follow up question regarding:
>
> .i mi pu noroi viska da poi na se nelci be mi
> (I have up-to-now 0-times seen something such that it's not true that
> said-thing is liked by me)
> ((I've never seen something I haven't liked))
>
> ...if i wanted to make this sentence sound more chinese with a topic-comment
> structure, how close can we get the lojban word order to align to it?
>
CLL, chapter 19, section 4
That's not really topic-comment, but it can be fixed up to be
> Chinese/English gloss
>
> 一个我不喜欢的东西，我从来没有看过
> 一个, 我 , 不 , 喜欢 , 的 , 东西，我 , 从来 , 没有 , 看过
> yige, wo, bu , xihuan , de , dongxi ，wo , conglai , meiyou , kanguo
> a, I, not , like, [adjectival-phrase] , thing , ，, I , up-til-now , haven't
> , seen
>
> I don't know how I can put 'I-do-not-like' *in front* of lojban's "da" ...
> here's my attempt at reversing the sentence ignoring that feature though:
>
> .i da poi na se nelci be mi cu be mi pu noroi se viska
> (something which is not liked by me, has by-me up-to-now 0-times been seen)
grammatical and say what you want to say this way:
da poi na nelci be mi ku'o mi pu noroi se viska (something, which is
not liked by me, is by-me up to this time 0 times seen) However,
that (and my first setence) only really means that there is at least
one particular not-by-like-by-you thing which has not been seen by
you. Doesn't really mean that ALL things that you don't like you
haven't seen. Really, should have been "naku da poi na nelci be mi
ku'o mi pu se viska" (It is not true that there is at least one thing
which is not liked by me, that I have seen). To do even closer to the
Chinese, though:
lo se na'e nelci be mi zo'u mi pu na viska (A other-than-liked-by-me
thing: I haven't seen)
--gejyspa