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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Let's do something like this for Lojban!



On 7 March 2012 03:08, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis
> <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 6 March 2012 19:32, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > to minimize confusion,
>> > all the uses of tV that referred to a location are now vVku.
>> >
>>
>> {viku} is not a sumti, so that is not a genuine substitution.
>
> Right then. In that case,  I'm going back to the way I had it, because I
> find the idea of readers confusing something which is not a sumti with
> something that is entirely unacceptable, and I am also unwilling to risk the
> confusion caused by referring to both places and things with tV. (Panel 12
> would be {tu zvati tu}, for example.)
>

As previously commented, from panels 10, 11 and the circles it is clear that
clalis is pointing at places. Panel 12 could be {lo prenu cu zvati
tu}. It is really
up to you, though.

>>
>> > 72. mi nanca li civo .ije lo mi nakspe goi la.sam. nanca li cixa .i lo
>> > go'i
>> > cu zmadu mi lo se nanca li re .i lo mi'a tixnu cu zmadu lo mi'a bersa lo
>> > se
>> > nanca li vo
>> >
>>
>> zmadu3 is a dimension, so it should be {lo ka ce'u nanca makau kei}.
>> Since this is the last utterance, and it appears to be decipherable,
>> you might want to play with the reader and leave it like that. A more
>> friendly alternative is to use a tanru like {nanca zmadu}, as in 56.
>
>
> z3 is not a dimension. It is a property or quantity. lo se nanca is a
> quantity.
>

z4 is a quantity and a {se nanca}. z3 is a quantity that is a function of
something. Otherwise, what could be an answer to the following questions?
  {la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. li xo}
  {la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. lo se nanca be ma}

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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