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Re: [lojban-beginners] Lujvo forming with cmavo rafsi

Yeah, and if you read 4.5 you can find this lil' gem.

"""
The lujvo representing a given tanru is built from units representing the component gismu. These units are called “rafsi” in Lojban. Each rafsi represents only one gismu. The rafsi are attached together in the order of the words in the tanru, occasionally inserting so-called “hyphen” letters to ensure that the pieces stick together as a single word and cannot accidentally be broken apart into cmavo, gismu, or other word forms. As a result, each lujvo can be readily and accurately recognized, allowing a listener to pick out the word from a string of spoken Lojban, and if necessary, unambiguously decompose the word to a unique source tanru, thus providing a strong clue to its meaning.
"""

It seems like the writers of the CLL originally did really just think of lujvo as being shortened forms of tanru who have been given an explicit meaning instead of the vague meaning that tanru have.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:


2011/2/3 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>


 
Lujvo are never really based on tanru. Only the x1 of a lujvo may
sometimes appear to be based on the x1 of a tanru made out of the same
component gismu. It doesn't work for any other place than the x1.
 
   I have really no problem with that statement, but the CLL needs to be amended on that point.  It specifically says:
 
There is a close relationship between lujvo and tanru. In fact, lujvo are condensed forms of tanru:
(chapter 12, second paragraph)
            --gejyspa
 

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