Re: [lojban-beginners] mi kakne lo bajra

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Wednesday 27 October 2010 08:54:22 Oren wrote:
> Lojban: { mi kakne lo bajra }
> Parse: (x1: I) am capable of (x2 [FORCE-EVENT/STATE: "being a"] runner")
> Gloss: "I'm capable of a running event"
> English: (I can run)

A running event, here, is not an event of running. It is an event that runs. 
How an event can run is not clear, so what this sentence means is not clear.

Another example of forcing: The preposition "ti'u" and the tense marker "ca" 
force their object to be a time. (There is a semantic difference between them 
which isn't relevant to forcing.) For example:
le nunpenmi be ti'u li vo pe le vanci cu fasnu ku'i ca le solnuncanci
The meeting set for four in the afternoon happened instead at sunset.
"ca le solnuncanci" is obvious: a sunset is an event which occurs at a 
time. "ti'u li vo pe le vanci" is not quite so obvious: numbers neither are 
times nor belong to evenings. One has to refer to a clock to make sense of 
this. One can equally grammatically say "ca le skami", which forces the 
computer to be a time just as "ti'u li vo" forces four to be a time. But what 
time is a computer?

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

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