Re: [lojban-beginners] Proposed change to smart.fm items

[Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>]

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok then, better example.  How would you say "I understand why people steal"?  I would guess it would be something like {mi djuno lo du'u makau cu krinu je rinka lo nu lo prenu cu zerle'a} but god is that clumsy.  And it still feels like it's just flirting with the idea of comprehension and not actually addressing it.

I would've used jimpe instead of djuno, and I wouldn't have used rinka: {mi jimpe fi lodu'u makau krinu lonu lo prenu cu zerle'a}

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:02 PM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7 May 2010 19:08, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

How would you say "john understands english" in lojban, xorxes?  (And {la djan se bangu le glibau} says that he uses it, not that he understands it/knows it).

"John understands English" means that something can be communicated to John by means of English. And this is what {la djan se bangu le glibau} means, is it not? Being capable of understanding a language is being capable of using a system of words in interpreting information encoded with that system. If by "use" you mean an actual application of the ability, that's something to be made explicit with {ca}, {ca'a}, etc.

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