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Re: [lojban] Exact translation of the pronoun "we"
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- Subject: Re: [lojban] Exact translation of the pronoun "we"
- From: John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>
- Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 07:58:34 -0800 (PST)
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--- Yanis Batura <ybatura@mail.ru> wrote:
> Dear Lojbanists,
>
> is there an EXACT translation of English
> pronoun "we"
> (the semantics of which is something like:
> me, the speaker, and AT LEAST one other person
> somehow related to me)?
mORE IMPORTANTLY, SOMEHOW RELATED TO THE PRESENT
CONVERSATION
> neither mi, nor mi'e do fit:
>
> mi
> KOhA3
> me
> pro-sumti: me/we the speaker(s)/author(s);
> identified by self-vocative
>
> mi'a
> KOhA3
> we, not you
> pro-sumti: me/we the speaker(s)/author(s) &
> others unspecified, but not you, the listener
>
>
> we can see from these definitions that both mi
> and mi'a could mean "me", which is far from
> what "we" means :)