[lojban] Re: le gusta co minde mutce

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:41 PM, tijlan <picos.picos@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/11/2 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>
>>>> .i no sai zo'e ga'i vi cipni jonai vlilydanlu vau .oi
>>
>> I think you want "ja" rather than "jonai" there.
>
> My thought was: can a little bird (which was what I meant by {cipni})
> be also a beast?

Even if nothing could be both cipni and vlilydanlu (and I'm not sure
that's true) I would still prefer "ja", simply because it's easier to
understand. After all, the point is just that there aren't any cipni,
and that there aren't any vlilydanlu.


>>>> da'i lo nu piso'o dantyfriti fi lo jirnydza ke pelxu betfymlana zo'u
>>
>> "piso'o dantyfriti" is a sumti. Maybe "piso'omei dantyfriti"?
>
> My mistake. By {piso'o} I intended to mean "some of the bullets". I
> was ambitiously looking for a way to say it in a tense-like form.
>
> Supposing {piso'omei dantyfriti} is a tanru, I think I'll go with that.

It's a tanru, yes. {friti so'o lo danti lo jirnydza ke pelxu
betfymlana} would be more straightforward.

>>>> .i mi ja'eda'i lo mu'e tolcikna binxo cu nu citka djica
>>
>> "nu citka kei djica"?
>
> I knew about the convention, but I wasn't clear about why NU's scope
> was considered that long.

NU will grab a whole sentence after it, in this case the sentence {citka djica}

> If the left-grouping applies to NU too,
> shouldn't {nu citka} without the delimiter be a separate seltau for
> {djica}?

The left grouping applies to the {NU ... KEI} tanru unit. NU by itself
is not a tanru unit, it converts a whole sentence that follows into a
tanru unit.


>>>> .i ko'a mu'e frumu
>>
>> "ko'a co'i frumu", or "mu'e ko'a frumu".
>
> Is {mu'e frumu} not a valid selbri?

{ko'a mu'e frumu} is a grammatical sentence, but it says that ko'a (a
man) is an event of frowning.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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