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[lojban] Re: le gusta co minde mutce



2008/11/11 Elias Friedman <skierb27@gmail.com>:

> "I will buy butter" and "I go to the market" can, I believe, be considered
> to be parts of one phrase, "I go to the market to buy butter".

It can.

But, cognition-wise, the order should be the other way around: "To buy
butter, I go to the market". You don't go to the market and then
firstly realize that what has motivated the action is the idea "to buy
butter", usually.


> Such an action could be motivated, to the best of my knowledge,
> by "I have run out of butter, and I need butter".

It could.

But you can be precise a few steps further:

The condition "I have run out of butter and I need butter"
motivates the intention "I am willing to buy butter"
which motivates the action "I go to the market.

> "I will buy butter" is not by itself a motive.

As an objectively unrealized future action, no it isn't. But as a
subjectively perceived current idea, yes it is.

This begs the question: Can such a statement "I will buy butter" be
other than a perceptual idea? Can it have factual/historical bearings
at all?


mu'o mi'e tijlan


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