[lojban] Re: le gusta co minde mutce

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Adam D. Lopresto <adam@pubcrawler.org> wrote:
>
> I've always thought that {se ja'e ma} is the most general version.  It's
> just
> "as a result of", without specifying what kind of result.

I think {se jalge} definitely covers {rinka}, but I'm not sure it
covers all kinds of {mukti}. A motive can be an event that is
(potentially) in the future of the event it motivates. Can a result
occur before what it results from? For example:

  lo nu mi ba te vecnu lo matne cu mukti lo nu mi klama le zarci
  I will buy butter motivates I go to the market.
  I go to the market to buy butter.

  lo nu mi ba te vecnu lo matne cu krinu lo nu mi klama le zarci
  I will buy butter is the reason I go to the market.
  I go to the market because I will buy butter.

both sound acceptable. I'm not sure about:

  ? lo nu mi klama le zarci cu jalge lo nu mi ba te vecnu lo matne
  ? I go to the market is the resut of I will buy butter.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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