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Re: [lojban] Re: shifting in tanru



actually, after reading a bit more closely.  xorxes, how do you get that only the first sumti goes into the selbri?  I read:

Any sumti which precede a selbri with an inverted tanru fill the places of the selbri (i.e., the places of the tertau) in the ordinary way. In Example 8.4, ``mi'' fills the x1 place of ``troci co klama'', which is the x1 place of ``troci''. The other places of the selbri remain unfilled. The trailing sumti ``le zarci'' and ``le zdani'' do not occupy selbri places, despite appearances.

to mean that {ko'a ko'e broda brode ko'i} to mean that ko'a AND ko'e BOTH go into broda and ko'i goes into x2 of brode.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
.uacai.  So, this is what I was trying to get at with my question.  I didn't realize it only happened with {co} but thanks for asking the question that I was thinking Pierre :)

I can see the usefulness of it, but it does seem bizarre that in {ko'a ko'e brode co broda ko'i ko'o}, ko'a goes in the x1 of brode and the rest all go into broda (starting from x2) with no visual cue to tell me that "ok, we've stopped filling in for brode, now we're filling in places for broda". 

2010/1/13 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>
> So in "mi lo nu kargau le vorme lo nu darxi ri troci co klama le bartu", "le
> bartu" is x2 of "klama" even though there are three arguments before "troci"?

Yes, but I think you wanted: "mi lo nu kargau le vorme kei lo nu darxi
ri cu troci co klama le bartu", otherwise there aren't three arguments
before troci.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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