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Re: [lojban] la .alis.



I don't know why it only just now occurred to me to check the CLL but I found the following:
"Capital letters are used only to represent non-standard stress, which can appear only in the representation of Lojbanized names."

So, at the very least, could we treat the possibility of publishing alis with this different typography with the same delicacy/officialness as we would any other thing that deviates from the CLL?

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I realize they are not (exactly) the same thing, but "orthography," as commonly understood, is not devoid of typographic conventions; those are _part_ of an orthography, at least as linguists use it--when one says that they developed an orthography for a previously-unwritten language, no one would assume that they had figured out how to spell things, but not bothered with how to actually write things down.

And I did check the definitions, from several places, and I see nothing that contradicts anything I said, nor anything anyone else said.  I meant what I said before, that the line is, apparently, drawn at different places for others than it is for me.


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:19, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, I guess I completely missed the point of this conversation and what Michael was saying--which seems to be that he's going to do this however he wants, never mind what anyone says, instead of trying to actually think about this and present a solution that could be adopted by people in the future.  Is that a correct assessment?

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:03, Michael Everson <michael.everson@gmail.com> wrote:
Noooooooo, that's *orthography*.

I tried not to get involved in this, but....  I'm not sure why you're drawing the line here, and saying that "G/a" is orthography and other things, like capitalization, not.  As far as I am concerned, Lojban orthography/typography/typesetting conventions/etc. are basically half done--the actual spelling of individual words is there, but the clause/sentence/paragraph/quotation stuff is missing.
 
Orthography and typography are not the same thing. Check the definitions. I posted them in this list a few missives ago.
 

Chris 

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