On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Michael Everson
<michael.everson@gmail.com> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2010, at 16:03, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> Okay, I can deal with most of it.
My gast is a bit flabbered to hear it!
> I prefer the left example better. (Although I'd rather someone went in with a fine-toothed comb and put those denpa bu in where they belong.)
I get the impression that some people really like this and some people don't.
If you're talking about the presence or absence of {.}, I highly doubt that anyone would object to it's presence, assuming that it is present consistently and correctly, and I think that those most likely to object to it's adsence would be the less proficient jbopre, such as myself.
> The right-side, I can deal with most of it. There is one thing in that example that is seriously grating, however. To use the first sentence: "...gi'e zukte fi noda. I abuboi...." This is horrible. Accepting your desire to capitalize for this example only, that phrase should be "...gie' zukte fi noda .i Abuboi....".
So you're treating .i like a danda, or | not belonging to either sentence? What do people think about that?
Um, what?
> {.i} is the Lojban word for the English period.
I wouldn't say so. The full stop in Latin (Greek, Cyrillic, Armenian, etc.) marks the *end* of a sentence. {.i} is a "sentence separator" (What is Lojban, p. 66) which seems to be described as introducing a new sentence whilst continuing a theme. But at the bottom of the page it states that {.i} and {ni'o} "start a new sentence or paragraph".
{.i} begins a new sentence, not ends an old one, I know this. {vau} is actually the Lojban word for the English period, however, {.i} is always required, in turn meaning {vau} rarely is.
I was trying to indicate the simlarity between {.i} and ".", that being, they are always found at the point where one sentence ends and another begins. Functionally polar opposites, but optherwise exactly the same.
> If you're going to mark punctuation, I'd prefer you be consistent. For example, "lu<<...>>li'u" but "(to...toi)"? The punctuation should be the same, so "to(...)toi".
I want to discuss this in terms of narrative structure in due course. Not ready to do that yet.
> I still don't like the capitalization.
>
> I think that a proficient jbopre, preferably Jorge, he being the author, should go through your work and make sure that things such as what I've pointed out are corrected, such as putting the {.} in the right place, and preferably in all the places that {.} has been optionally removed.
Ill be delighted to work with Jorge of course.