Re: [lojban] So what do we say for Swedish? (was "Summary: Cultural fu'ivla")

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
> right. i guess the code doesn't belong in a sumti place.
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:57, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>> On Thursday 01 April 2010 21:35:38 Oren wrote:
>>> > Lojban day-to-day: What do we say for Sweden and Swedish?
>>>
>>> sweden: { gugde la .sy .ebu }
>>> swedish: { bangu la .sy .vy }
>>
>> Doesn't parse (try "gugde la me sy.ebu"). And are the people of Cyprus
>> speakers of Welsh?
>>
>> Pierre

  I didn't see anyone comment on this (unless they did so in a
different thread), but I don't think Oren understood what Pierre was
saying.  "gugde la sy .ebu" isn't grammatical, because "sy. ebu" is a
pro-bridi.  When you stick a "la" in front of it, that means "the one
named ____ associated with SE".  But since we don't have a cmevla or
selbri following after, the blank is unfilled, and therefore fails
grammatically.  (An example might make this clearer: "gugde la sy .ebu
gerku" means "(something is) a country inhabited by SE's Dog" (where
"Dog" here is a name of someone/soemthing, not necessarily a dog,
somehow associated with who-/whatever "SE" is standing in for).

  Pierre's objection had no objection to the place that "la sy ebu"
was in (although you are correct Oren, that the place didn't make much
sense).  Pierre's corrected version was "a country those named
"SE'ers"  which makes more sense.

             --gejyspa

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