Re: [lojban] smart.fm flashcards - obvious wrongness

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 09:30:02PM -0400, Kevin Reid wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2010, at 20:27, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:55:23PM -0400, Kevin Reid wrote:
> >>I find that whenever I'm quizzed about a gismu place, the answer
> >>is always obvious because the current session is dealing with
> >>only a few gismu, and out of all the possible answers there is
> >>only one item which (if Lojban->English) is plausibly for that
> >>gismu or (if English->Lojban) is one of the gismu sumti being
> >>used in this test.
> [...]
> >There is no technical solution to this in the smart.fm setup that
> >I'm aware of.
> 
> Well, I don't know what smart.fm's model is, 

Yes, exactly.  :)

> but it at least manages to present only the appropriate *type* of
> phrases (e.g. if the question is "something x" then the answers
> are all "lo [SE] BRIVLA" and not "BRIVLA" or in English); I
> assume, however, that it might be impractical to extend this to
> per-gismu associations, or that it would eliminate ever seeing a
> wrong answer with the wrong gismu.

I don't know if it's impractical or not, because I have *absolutely*
no idea how it selects what to show in the multiple choice boxes,
nor any idea how to exert control over it: it's a total black box to
me.

> > My personal solution is to not click "quiz me" or
> >"next" until I'm sure I know which it is.  I haven't gone so far
> >as to deliberately click a wrong answer if I get it wrong in my
> >head, but I'm considering it.
> 
> Having to stop and think about my own performance was one of the
> most tiresome aspects of using SuperMemo on the Palm, for me.
> smart.fm as it is seems to be much more conducive to getting into
> flow. [But is that good for learning?] I don't have to remember
> *not* to click ahead (except that I wish the study screens, which
> are display-this, pause, display-that, *looked more different*
> from the other screens because I often click through them without
> recognizing them since I'm in the mode of 'glance at question,
> click next, pick answer'. On the other hand, perhaps it's just
> that it hasn't caught up with my actual skill level yet and once I
> have more not-immediately-recognized items the steps will be more
> natural.)

I'm very much hoping the latter is true, and want to hear from you
if it turns out to be.

-Robin

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