Re: [lojban] Named multiples

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Under the current syntax, names are always clearly labelled, so,
> listener knows, that here will go something, not expected to be known in
> advance to understand.

Names still have to be labeled with "la", whether the word ends in a
vowel or a consonant.

> After the change, listener will never be sure, if he should look up the next
> word in the memory, or just use the letter sequence, it hears, as the name.

If it comes after "la", they just use the letter sequence, in other
places they need to look it up. Just like now. In "la spagetis" all
that matters is the letter sequence, in "lo me zei spagetis", they
need to look it up. In "la donri" all that matters is the letter
sequence, and in "lo donri" they need to look it up. Word form has
nothing to do with it.

> So, when we'll got big enough user base, taught on the text with enough
> unlabelled names, they will tend to use that names in speech, and will tend
> to shorten the required pause to zero, as it annoys a lot. That will result
> in a lot of misunderstanding, causing a language drift.

You are using "name" in two different senses, "word that ends in a
consonant" and "word used as arbitrary label". In current Lojban,
words that end in a consonant are not necessarily used as arbitary
labels, and words used as arbitrary labels do not necessarily end in a
consonant. So why use the same word to talk about both?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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