[lojban] Re: Teaching methods, especially WRT terminators, and validation thereof

[Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com>]

I think I've figured it out.
It's a dialect, if there ever could be such a thing in Lojban.

I've very suddenly realised this and wanted to share the idea.
It's not inherently wrong, and there's no inherently better way of
speaking.
I think it comes down to two rather different but mutually
understandable dialects.
It seems to me like the difference between Canadian, British, and
American English (comparing the standard versions).

I think we should emphasise the learning and memorisation of
terminators to avoid the annoying dance of having to rephrase
everything just to use {cu}, but we should also shortly into the
lessons teach {cu} to avoid the dance of having to remember just how
many LE's and NU's and BE's and NOI's you've gone through.

I'm actually quite pleased by this. Lojban seems much more...
legitimate... now that we seem to have emerging dialects. We should
name them and celebrate them! britai? juftai? What would be a good
word for 'dialect'? What should we call the dialects themselves? I
like lindarbau myself. =D

Just to expand further upon the differences, I think it's a difference
in the way things are internalised. Without thinking, I will end a
clause of lo with ku. If I talk about a bird, it's {lo cipni ku}. If I
begin a jufra with LE, then I automatically use {ku} until I've hit
the main selbri. The only time I have ended up using {cu} is when I'd
have to say {kuku}, and half the time I rephrase things if I'd end up
having to say {lo nu broda kei ku brode}, usually to falonu or sommat.

I think it would be very interesting and beneficial project to
document the differences in dialects as I can identify at least two.
We could document this as actual linguistic growth in the community
(i.e. bonus points cos it makes us look like a "real language", not a
scifi geek one), and then have lessons on "how to talk like a...".
It's almost like the difference between kansai-ben and kanto-ben (in
fact, that's almost a scarily accurate analogy).

So... what does everyone think?

to ta'osai mi tcetce ckire la .xorxes. le nu zvati la'oi #lojban
ki'ecai .xorxes. toi

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