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Re: [lojban] Fw: xagrai and superlatives



I think the point that he was trying to make is that with your formulation, xorxes, is that you lose the information about from which rafsi you're pulling the information from.

i.e. if I say {nelrai = ko'e traji lo ka ko'a nelci ce'u kei ko'o ko'i} I've lost whether the x1 comes from nelci or traji.  I've seen people use {ko'a} and {fo'a} to differentiate which places come from which component word.  For example, the earlier nelrai definition would be: 
{fo'a no'u ko'e traji lo ka ko'a nelci ce'u kei fo'o fo'i}.  Where ko'V represents a place that comes from nelci1, nelci2, etc... and fo'V represents the places of traji1,2,etc...

Of course, I'm not quite sure how that system would fare when it comes to lujvo of more than 1 rafsi...  "vo'V"?  "ko'Vpire"?

2010/10/29 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:48 PM, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>> ko'a brodyrai ko'e (ko'i ko'o ko'u ...)
>> = ko'a traji lo ka ce'u broda (ko'i ko'o ko'u ...) kei zi'o ko'e
>
> Sorry, I find this way of explaining it confusing.  Can you relate the
> ko'a ko'e etc to the places in:
>
> t1=x1 traji loka xamgu x2 x3 kei t3 t4

What part do you find confusing? It's just ordinary Lojban.

The problem with your presentation is that it doesn't tell us anything
about the order of the arguments in the lujvo. Are we to assume that
they will appear in the lujvo in the same order as they appear in the
expansion? If so, then to make it equivalent to mine you would have to
write it as:

  t1=x1 traji fo t4 fe loka xamgu x2 x3 kei (t3=zi'o)

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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