Re: [lojban] {ziltau} vs {taurpau}

[Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com>]

The idea, in fact, was not {tanru be zi'o bei zi'o}, but {se tanru be
zi'o bei zi'o} (or {te tanru be zi'o bei zi'o} (maybe even with an
implicit {ka'e}). That is, a tanru-unit is the sort of thing that can
be a seltau or a tertau, it isn't necessarily a tanru itself, and it
isn't necessarily actually *used* in a tanru.

zi'o-ing out the x1 may be unusual, but it has precedent ({zilcmi},
for instance).

2010/11/18 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I remember that one of the arguement was that {ziltau} was the term
>> used in the grammar but I couldn't find it in the BNF (neither in the
>> PEG) grammar.
>
> The grammar uses "tanru-unit".
>
>> On the other hand, {taurpau} suggested by Pierre seems a very sensible lujvo.
>>
>> Could we all get to an agreement?
>
> The only problem (with both "tanru-unit" and "taurpau") is that the
> construct in question need not be part of any tanru, it could be a
> selbri all by itself. It may be part of a tanru, but need not be.
>
> The advantage of "ziltau" (construed as "tanru be zi'o bei zi'o") is
> that it removes any idea of modifiers and modificands, which is not
> really part of the essence of a tanru-unit. The disadvantage is that
> it can be quite confusing.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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