Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Well, yes, given we have the idiom, extending it to new cases seems perfectly 
reasonable (once you shoot a hole in balloon, you might just as well tear the 
whole thing up as you plunge downward). 'bu'au pei' would still be a dumb 
question, since it can't meaningfully have the answer 'nai' and any positive 
answer would be not specifically informative, i.e., 'cai' would be no different 
from 'cu'i' or 'ro'e' -- contrary to the purported purpose of the idiom,  Again, 
this is not my amalogy and I fon't give much weight to it either way.


----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 7:27:18 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:33 AM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  There is, after all, no grunts
> and wheezes that ask where one is in three (or four or more) space, one asks
> "Where the fugawee?"  Why should the matter be different for emotional
> space?

If there was a UI that was used to express you were at some particular
point in space, then tagging it with "pei" would be a perfectly
reasonable way to ask whether you were there.

There aren't any spatial points that are special enough across points
and general enough across people to have a UI assigned to express our
being there, and also it does not seem to be something humans feel
compelled to express.

Maybe a UI for "I'm here!" wouldn't be unreasonable. If there was such
a UI, we could use it to ask, although it would probably make more
sense as a COI. Let's say "bu'au" was such a COI. Then "bu'au pei
<name>" would be a good way to do a roll call.

mu'o mi'e xorxes.

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