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Re: [lojban] Re: I love Lojban's approach, but what's the deal with place tags?



Firstly, Lojban is very permissive with the pronunciation of it's phonemes, so I'm willing to bet that "ɐ" is a perfectly reasonable pronunciation of ybu. Secondly, that's exactly how I pronounce those vowels as well, possibly allowing for slight differences due to accent.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, if "cut" and "nut" are using "ɐ" could you give an example of an english word that uses the schwa that we say lojban "y" sounds like?  I was under the impression that "ɐ" (whatever that is) is what the lojban "y" sounds like.

god-damnit ivo, just when I think I have the lojban pronounciation figured out you go and throw it all in to doubt for me.

For the record, my lojban vowels are as follows:
a -> the "a" in english "father"
e -> the "e" in english "bet"
i - > the "ee" in english "beet"
o -> the "oa" in english "boat"
u -> the "oo" in english "root"
y -> the "u" in english "butter", "nut", "cut", "rut", "gutter", and the "o" in "mother" and "love".

If these aren't proper lojban pronunciations, please correct me.

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Ivo Doko <ivo.doko@gmail.com> wrote:
If you pronounce "cut" and "nut" like this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/En-us-cut.ogg
and this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/En-us-nut.ogg
respectively, then you're not pronouncing them like {kyt} and {nyt}
([kət] and [nət]), but more like {kat} and {nat} ([kɐt] and [nɐt]
(international IPA)). If you're not pronouncing them similarly to how
they're pronounced in those recordings then I would be most grateful
if one of you could record him-/herself pronouncing either "cut" or
"nut" or both and upload the recording somewhere so that I can hear
your pronunciation.

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