Re: [lojban] Re: I love Lojban's approach, but what's the deal with place tags?

[Ivo Doko <ivo.doko@gmail.com>]

On 9 April 2011 07:47, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> o -> the "oa" in english "boat"
> y -> the "u" in english "butter", "nut", "cut", "rut", "gutter", and the "o"
> in "mother" and "love".

As far as I've been able to gather, all of your pronunciations except
for these two are "proper". However, as Jonathan says lojban is very
permissive so I doubt anyone would misunderstand you especially since
lojban doesn't feature {ou} as a diphthong so pronouncing {o} as [oʊ]
(which is what you do) instead of [o], [ɔ] or [ɒ] wouldn't create any
ambiguity.

FYI, a more "proper" pronunciation of {o} would be like "ou" in "four"
or like "o" in "knot" and British English "lot" and "not" ([lɒt] and
[nɒt], as opposed to US English [lɑt] and [nɑt]).

As for {y}, that one should be [ə], also known as schwa. In English
that's the common unstressed pronunciation of the indefinite article
"a" (as in "a dog") and is also featured in the unstressed
pronunciation of the definite article "the" (which is pronounced [ðə],
unless when in front of a word which starts with a vowel in which case
it is more commonly pronounced [ði] or [ðiː] as in "the example").
Examples of it also include "a" in "general" and both "a"s in
"American". It is also the sound you make when you're thinking of what
to say next in a conversation (commonly transcribed as "uh...").

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