On May 31, 2011 4:01 PM, "Michael Turniansky" <
mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>>
>> OK, so, some of us are trying to play a Nomic game in Lojban.
>> Nomic, generally speaking, is a game where the basic gameplay is to
>> change the rules of the game, until some combination of rules claims
>> that someone has won.
>>
>> Open Nomics tend to get incredibly complicated, and can sometimes
>> run for a very long time (years). I don't much enjoy that, and
>> that's not what we're playing.
>>
>> We're playing a simplified Nomic called Fantasy Rules Committee.
>>
>> The main rules for FRC are here:
>>
>>
https://groups.google.com/group/frc-play/web/regular-ordinances-revised-oct-2007
>>
>> but that makes them look a lot more complicated than they are;
>> here's the super-simplified version:
>>
>> There are real rules and fantasy rules; rounds consist of posting
>> fantasy rules, which must all be consistent with each other; you
>> can only post a fantasy rule if you have in the past week; at the
>> beginning, everyone is considered to have posted; last one capable
>> of posting wins
>>
>> Here's the slightly less simplified version:
>>
>> - there are real rules/ordinances/{ralju javni}; these are the
>> actual rules of the game, and require a 2/3 majority to change
>>
>> - there are also fantasy rules/{javni}/{draci javni}/{zdile javni};
>> posting fantasy rules is how the game is played; they are often
>> very silly; all fantasy rules that the judge believes do not
>> contradict other fantasy rules go into force immediately upon
>> adjudication
>>
>> - a round starts with the judge (last round's winner) declaring a
>> theme for the round; the person with the most score points for the
>> previous round is the Wizard for the next round, but I've no idea
>> what this actually does; I assume fantasy rules sometimes refer to
>> it
>>
>
> Rule 8. The wizard can ALSO bestow style points, from -1 to 1.
>
>> - rounds consist of posting fantasy rules, which must all be
>> consistent with each other, and should be consistent with the
>> theme
>>
>> - the judge declares if a rule is consistent, and awards it score
>> points for style and consistency with the theme
>>
>> - you can only post a fantasy rule if you have in the past week; at
>> the beginning, everyone is considered to have posted
>>
>> - the last person capable of posting wins; this means that each
>> round continues until interest wears out, at which point people's
>> weeks of allowed posting start expiring, and the last one who
>> posted a rule when everyone else has expired wins
>>
>> We're playing it mostly in Lojban. People are welcome to translate
>> what they, or others, have said into English, though.
>>
>> We haven't actually started a round, because we need a judge and a
>> theme. As a random side comment, I thought a meta-Lojban theme
>> (like "must not contain abstractions") would be fun, but I don't
>> want to judge, as I want to participate.
>>
>> -Robin
>
> Okay, so there is no turn structure, or voting on fantasy rules?
> They are just propsed at will, and automatically come into effect if
> judged valid? Seems a little... chaotic?
> --gejyspa
>
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