Re: [lojban] non-ka properties

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Before someone calls me out on it, I mean "ambiguous in this world", since every 
predicate expression does have a non-denumerably infinite set of properties. all 
of which are identical in this worlds.  So, the interesting cases are those 
which are ambiguous in this world, i.e., refer to sets that are different in 
this world.




----- Original Message ----
From: John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 4:08:41 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] non-ka properties

Sorry; I should have clarified "in text", there are , of course, properties 
never referred to or not in this corpus, etc. but, if they are referred to at 
all, they are referred to using ka-expressions (or indirectly). On the issue of 
whether one ka expression can refer to several (though presumably even then not 
uncountably many) different properties, I gave to suppose that is as true as the 

claim that some predicates are ambiguous, which seems certainly true -- maybe 
even in a given context.  





----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 2:17:43 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] non-ka properties

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   A case
> could be made, I think, that all and only properties are referred to by
> ka-expressions.

"Only", perhaps. "All", I doubt. The number of ka-expressions is
countable, while the number of properties is not. Perhaps you are
allowing the same ka-expression to be used to refer to more than one
property.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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