Re: [lojban] Re: xu dai

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Yup! But I still only get a little over 10 m.  Go figger! 
However, assuming that xorxes' reading of 'xu dai' is licit and the target usage is fairly common, I wonder about applying the same to other directive language.  What about 'ko dai'?  Grammatical dissimilarities aside, the function is essentially the same.  To be sure, the obvious versions for this usage  "I hear you asking me to" (900k) and "I hear you telling me to" (1.8m) are not as common and in many cases they are about real commands that the speaker is commenting on (the first several entries are for a song with a line like "I hear you asking me to be strong Cause relief is on the way" or so), which I did not see in the question cases -- but then I didn't read all that many.
Eventually we do get down to projected commands that I either want to do or want to object to before they are actually raised.  This seems to me even more ridiculous than 'xu dai', but I don't see how to stop the slide once it goes beyond attitudinals.

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From: Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 8:58:02 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: xu dai

Actually, if you put a search in quotes it will search for that specific _expression_ and not just word1 AND word2 AND word3 etc...

So when xorxes said that he got 50,500,000 hits for "I hear you ask" (it's up to 50,700,000 now for me) he means that that specific _expression_ comes up that many times not just pages containing all those words.

And all results on the first page are close fits for the usage that xorxes describes.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:46 AM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

Well given the frequency of "I" and :you" and probably of "hear" and "asking".
and given the quirks of search engines, I am not too surprised at 50 million
"hits".  But you have come up with at least one case that actually used the
_expression_, and I suppose there are many (not a million, though) more.

  [snip] 

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