Re: [lojban] girzu gi'i gunma gi'i se gunma

[tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>]

2011/7/16 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> "lo" covers the non-distributive sense of "loi" (i.e. "lo" allows both distributive and non-distributive).

Does "non-distributive" mean "collective"?


> I have used "fa'u", and sometimes I have missed a corresponding gadri for it.

You also mentioned the following possibility in another discussion:

  ko'a fa'u ko'e fa'u ko'i xabju fo'a fa'u fo'e fa'u fo'i
  --> lo'au ci prenu cu xabju lo'au ci zdani ("lo'au" as a
hypothetical fa'u-gadri)

The BPFK defines "fa'u" as:

  "Respectively. Joins two sumti into one sumti. The referents of the
resulting sumti are the referents of both sumti considered jointly and
distributively in correspondence with another term."

Would you say this is an ordered version of "jo'u": "jo'u + ce'o"?
And, considering your following comment,

> When I use "ce'o", I don't think of it as creating a reference to an ordered set, but rather as indicating that the order of connectands is relevant.
> But "ko'a ce'o ko'e" still refers to ko'a and ko'e, not to something that has them as members.

could the non-set "fa'u" and the non-set "ce'o" have the same function
when used for structurally corresponding pairs of terms:

  ko'a fa'u ko'e xabju fo'a fa'u fo'e
  ko'a ce'o ko'e xabju fo'a ce'o fo'e


mu'o mi'e tijlan

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