Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable

["John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Sorry, don"t see how what you say differs from what I say: {pi mu lo plise cu broda} means that a subset of lo plise with half it's cardinality satisfies (in some unspecified -- but hopefully obvious from context  -- way) {broda}.

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On Oct 19, 2011, at 22:43, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:

> * Wednesday, 2011-10-19 at 19:15 -0700 - John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>:
> 
>> I think that "one of every two" came out as "1/2" or some such.  I am not 
>> confident that {pi mu plise} means "half an apple", which might better be 
>> something about an apple half.  {pi mu lo plise} is a bunch of apples half the 
>> size of {lo plise}.
> 
> Do you really mean that, rather than having it be a quantifier?
> 
> i.e. rather than having {pi mu lo plise cu broda} to mean that some
> bunch of apples half the size of lo plise satisfies broda?
> 
> Martin
> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>
>> To: lojban@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wed, October 19, 2011 2:13:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified  plural 
>> variable
>> 
>> Pierre Abbat, On 19/10/2011 05:14:
>>> On Tuesday 18 October 2011 22:56:31 And Rosta wrote:
>>>> Is there consensus on what fractional quantifiers should mean? I find it
>>>> hard to think of an valid argument for piro being distinct from ro.
>>> 
>>> piro is numerically equal to pa. "piro donri" and "pa donri" mean the same,
>>> except for the implied contrast (a whole day, not just a morning; one day,
>>> not two or more).
>> 
>> Ah, so "pi mu plise" is "half an apple" rather than "one in every two apples", 
>> then. That must have been settled after my intensive involvement ended. What 
>> ended up being the way of doing "one in every two apples"?

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