Re: [lojban] baby words, but general relevance: dai-like cmavo

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Craig Daniel <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>   Nope. It's called anthropomorphizing.  I'm sympathizing with the way I
> believe that item would feel, if it could feel pain.  For example, were I of
> a sadistic bent, And I stepped on a snail, crushing it, I could reasonably
> cry out, "oiro'osaidai .i uisairo'e" corresponding roughly to English "[high
> squeaky voice] Oh, ow! [gloating voice] MWA-HAHA!"  My mental state and the
> snail's do not correspond at all.

I disagree. I think ".oiro'osaidai .i .uisairo'e" implies changing
feelings about having stepped on a snail*, beginning by empathizing
with the snail's physical pain

  
  [snip]
 

*CLL, right after the part we were just talking about: "Finally, we
often want to report how our attitudes are changing. If our attitude
has not changed, we can just repeat the attitudinal. (Therefore, ".ui
.ui .ui" is not the same as ".uicai", but simply means that we are
continuing to be happy.)" For a mix of feelings, I'd be inclined to
leave out the ".i" in the middle, but what it's a blend or sequence
*of* is not changed.

  I won't bother rehashing my opinions on the matter at hand (dai), because we've already covered it, but about this new point, the reason I used "i" was simply intended as a separator, so that the two emotional states wouldn't "bleed" into one another (not sure if they would have, so I was just forestalling it.  Feel free to read my sentence without it) If I wanted to convey changing emotions, well, that's what bu'o is for.
             --gejyspa

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