Re: [lojban] Re: jbonunsla 2012: Post #2

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 02:44:46PM +0200, selpa'i wrote:
> coi If you don't mind, I'd like to comment on each point, knowing
> well that a lot comes down to opinion:
> 
> Am 08.07.2012 09:44, schrieb la .lindar.:
> >>From my notes (brief summary to be expanded perhaps never):
> >
> >{tolcliva} is crap and you pretty much should never use it.
> 
> How is it crap? Is this just your (sg.) opinion or did you (pl.)
> come to an agreement about it? You gotta be more specific than
> "it's crap, you can't use it". Both tolcliva and mo'u klama /
> klamu'o have their place.

tolcliva is a poor generic word for "arrive".

> >Agree to disagree on (or attempt to deprecate, or just say 'fuck
> >it' regarding) the weird vowel letterals.
> 
> Some people don't like them, but I find them prettier than .a'y
> .e'y .i'y .o'y .u'y. The obvious disadvantage is that .abu is two
> words so zo can't quote it.

Agreed on all points; lindar disagrees.

> >Agree to disagree on whether time can be {clani} or {barda}.
> 
> Time can be clani. Time has a dimension and anything with a
> dimension can be long or short in that dimension.

I disagree, as a matter of philosophy, that time has a dimension;
this disagreement has nothing to do with Lojban as I've had it in
English many times; we passed on it because of that fact (that it's
not about Lojban).

> >Kill with fire all of the 'by standard' places in favour of a BAI
> >that does the same thing.
> 
> I strongly disagree. There are a good number of "by standard"
> places that are used a lot, and I don't want to use BAI to get
> access to them. xamgu3 and dukse3 are two very common examples.

Quite.

> >Stuff we need to discuss tomorrow:
>
> One thing you might want to look at is how some gismu have built-in
> jai while others don't.

Some day, but probably not today.  :)

-Robin

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