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Re: [lojban] modals inside description sumti (za'e "internal-modals") question
Am 18.08.2012 02:33, schrieb Pierre Abbat:
You can't use BAI as a tense. It's a proper preposition; if you put it just
before the selbri, it adds a place to the predicate and leaves it unfilled.
A string of tense markers just before a selbri is grammatical:
pu be'a sanli
But a string of prepositions including BAI is not:
*ca gau farvi
*gau ca farvi
ca farvi gau
gau ku ca farvi
*bai ta'i zbasu
bai zbasu ta'i
This rule makes little sense and is an unnecessary restriction that
shouldn't (and in my opinion doesn't) even exist. I don't know why you
always mention "proper prepositions" and distinguish them from tenses.
There is no difference between tenses and BAI, they all add places to
the bridi, they all tag a sumti, they all can be used as selbri tcita,
which is like filling them with zo'e.
Am 17.08.2012 23:21, schrieb sunderland:
Somewhat relatedly, I was also wondering, are the following grammatical?
1. {zu'a lo ckule [ku] cu zarci}
2. {lo mu'i tavla}
In other words, can {cu} separate the selbri from a modal phrase
(something other than leading sumti)? 1. is technically an observative
(I think) after all.
Observatives aren't really a thing anymore. You shouldn't treat bridi
without an explicit x1 differently from others.
mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
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