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Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro}



So, then we can rely on pragmatics.  To answer merely "something" is, by the Rule of Quantity, inadequate, if you have druthers.  But, assuming -- as we always should -- that you are cooperating, this is adequate and, therefore, you have no preferences: "anything will do".



From: John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" <lojban@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro}

Relying on pragmatics is best when the semantics is sound, which is not clear here.  I can't parse {nabyplane} off hand, so I'll skip that and also the awkwardness of having both {tu'a} and the elided predicate {citka} present.  The scope of {ma} is problematic: is it this world, where, admittedly, the answer presumably lies, or the world of {lo nu do citka}, where the language places it?  Happily, the answer is a this-worldly {da}, which covers the difference smoothly (the event world presumably in these cases includes the relevant portions of the actual world and, perhaps, then some).


From: .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro}

I wonder if we can rely on pragmatics...

{tu'a ma poi nabyplane do citka se djica}
{.i da}

We do have which, I think: {ma poi}

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:25 PM, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:
To play devil's advocate, I think an unquantified sumti is pretty much what we want.

However, we don't have "which", so we don't really have "any".

"Which sandwich do you want?"

"Any sandwhich is fine."

In Lojban I wouldn't say it that way.

{.i ko cuxna fi loi snuji} or summat.

Whatever... I'm out of opinions/suggestions.
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