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Re: [lojban] "turn on"



  If this is still open for discussion, I'd prefer using sazri as the base gismu, because "pilno" is too broad. You can pilno things i.e. lo valsi that don't "turn on", whereas sazri has to be (outside metaphorical use) a cabra or minji, basically.
      --gejsypa



On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:40 PM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday 17 August 2012 18:34:12 djandus wrote:
> we ended up trying to come up with a word for
> "x1 performs its intended function/purpose x2" -- the word I eventually
> suggested was {zilpli}.
So it's said, this is more than an "idleness" issue -- when whoever it was (tsani?) said we needed a word with the above definition, I felt certain there had to be a lojban word for it.

I'd say "lo ve tivni cu tolcando".
 Indeed, of the current Lojban usages for "turned on/working", {tolcando} was the best, IMO. However, there are some cases I would prefer {zilpli}. When my TV is turned on just to be on, I'd say {tolcando}, but when a computer turns itself on (or merely comes out of standby) to perform a scheduled task, {zilpli} seems more appropriate.

Computers these days, though, have various
states of idleness: CPU use is 0%, suspended, hibernating, and off. I'm not
sure how to distinguish those.
However we solve the "CPU use is ##%" issue should also be able to be used to describe a percentage of active cells in a creatures body. (Also, what's Lojban for CPU? Did that other thread about computer terms cover hardware?) Maybe {pi mu lo sambesna cu tolcando} for "Half of the processor is active." (Where {piro} and {pino} could be used for the extreme cases.)

Maybe something like {dicmu'ucando} for "idle with current" for "on standby" versus {dicyzuncando} for "idle without current" for "hibernate". (I have trouble describing electricity when the charge and its time derivative are given the same word. And when I can't find a word for being "still/unmoving" other than, I guess, {tolmu'u})

There's also "tolpo'u".
 That's a very important word to have on hand. ki'esai


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