Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban

anything else?

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:47:05 PM UTC+4, .alyn.post. wrote:

I like the suggestion of a {{cleanup}} template. I've been working
on general workflow templates over at OpenCog:

http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Curation

And they are similar to this idea. You can mark a page as a
{{stub}}, mark it as work in progress ({{WIP}})* write it until
it's a {{proposal}}, and then {{withdraw}} it if it's a bad idea
or tag it with a {{version}} if it becomes a feature. Later work
may cause it to be {{obsolete}} and if you don't keep it in sync
it might get {{out of date}}.

These templates also take care to register the pages in the
appropriate namespaces, so a curator can see which pages are in
which categories. I like workflow processes like this because any
effort has a 'long tail' of incomplete, partial, bad, and promising
ideas that don't quite fit into the existing structure of the wiki.

mi'e .alyn.

* = adding that is on my list, it doesn't exist yet.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:29:43AM -0800, vruxir wrote:
> I'm of the opinion that it would benefit a future Wiki if it has imported
> ALL the contents from the TWiki. If that can be done automatically, then
> hopefully there's also a way to automatically place a "Cleanup" box at the
> top of each imported article, saying something to the effect of:
> "This article was imported from the old lojban.org Tiki Wiki and may not
> meet the content and style guidelines of this Wiki. Please see our
> _content and style guidelines_ and clean up this article. If you feel that
> the article is named inappropriately, the article can be moved to a new
> name. Do not remove this tag until the article is up to standards."
> Then you'll want to have some content and style guidelines, probably
> inspired by Wikipedia or other successful Wikis.
> (When you move an article to a new name, the old name becomes a redirect;
> if you replace the old name with a new article, you can insert tags at the
> top of the article with suggestions to visit the moved article. See, for
> example, the top of the article [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
> )
> If there is a debate about what a word really MEANS, then I would think
> the article about that word needs to report the differing viewpoints
> (including CLL's viewpoint) and what level of support the viewpoints
> have. Then the actual continuing debate over the meaning of the word could
> go in the Discussion tab, OR if it's possible to create another tab with a
> more appropriate name (e.g. "Grammar Debate"), do that and leave the
> Discussion tab for talking about the quality of the article itself.
> By importing all the TWiki content to the new Wiki (and marking them all
> for "cleanup"), you can safely redirect people from the TWiki to the new
> Wiki if/when it has been demonstrated that the new Wiki is superior, and
> you don't have to worry about losing important discussions.
> mu'o mi'e vruxir
> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:16:51 PM UTC-5, .alyn.post. wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:21:14AM -0800, la gleki wrote:
> > * We're making a fresh start, so why not keep it clean?
>
> To be contrary a moment,
>
> I've put a lot of work in writing and organizing TWiki pages. I'm
> happy to have them migrated to mediawiki, but I'm more-or-less being
> told that the work I've done on TWiki isn't valuable ("fresh start").
> Any work I would do on the new wiki would need to access/refer to/
> modify the pages I have worked on than are in TWiki.
>
> I'd love to have them imported to Mediawiki, but as things stand I feel
> like work I've put into the wiki is more-or-less being deleted (you can
> call it archiving if you want) and I'm wondering what the heck I would
> be expected to do with the new wiki when all the content I want to work
> on is in the old wiki.
>
> mi'e .alyn.
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