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Re: [lojban] Time-(non)local sumti (was: Mixing tenses, on the beginners list)



But you seem to have answered this question.  As xorxes notes, our formula 'lo ca me mi' or whatever, clearly indicates a temporally segmented mi, 'mi' alone leaves the matter open.  So how do we speak of the perduring mi?


From: Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Time-(non)local sumti (was: Mixing tenses, on the beginners list)

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:48 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
By context, as it says.  Remember, we are not talking about  the thing, but about how we talk about the thing.  I am what I am, but it is sometimes useful to talk about temporally delimited chunks of me (as it were, maybe clusters) and sometimes as the perduring me throughout time.  The nice thing about 'lo' is that it covers all options, down to temporo-spatial minute bits of me, and selects the relevant one.
The speaker != context. Context can indicate something, but my question was about how the speaker can be explicit about it. That {lo} can zip around is great, but we should be able to boss it around, too.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o 
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