Re: [lojban] 'good or simple' vs 'good, or simple'

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Subject: Re: [lojban] 'good or simple' vs 'good, or simple'

From: "John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com>

Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 15:26:29 -0500

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Well, {tu'a} is always a good idea with {djica} , though probably less a problem here than often. As for the incomplete answer, that is a problem with any version of this that involves a question. Consider the "Yes, please" answer in English.

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On May 19, 2013, at 15:01, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

Either I'm completely misunderstanding the situtations being described here, or people have rejected for soem reason the ji/je'i/ge'i/gi''i mechanism, which you have completely avoided (as has the webpage pointed to)??

do djica lo ckafi ji lo tcati -- done.
--gejyspa
I think most of us would say you need {tu'a} there. ta'o nai The arguable problem with that is that connectives that fail to fully specify the truth table, such as {.o nai} and {.a}, are valid answers to a {ji} question, but may fail to inform the person asking the question of what they should do. When tsani and I talked about this we concluded that the natural workaround to this isn't a fundamentally different construct, but instead telling the person that they're being unhelpful, as you would in the analogous situation with English. For example:

A: .i do djica tu'a lo ckafi ji lo tcati
B: .i .a
A: .i na'i .i sarcu fa lo nu mi djuno lo du'u mi bevri ma kau do
B: .i ua .i .e nai

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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