Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla

[Betsemes <betsemes@gmail.com>]

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>
>> These are brivla used as "nicknames".  All sorts of words are used as
>> nicknames in English, but they are not really "names".  Presumably no one
>> would be given a nickname as their legal name, if Lojban were ever adopted
>> as a legal language.
>
> I find this hard to reconcile. Why is .camgusmis., which we all know is not
> Robin's given name, not a nickname, but tsani is? Is it simply because one
> if a cmene and the other is only a cmevla?
>
> What about the dog named Bear? Would calling him la cribe when speaking in
> Lojban not be calling him by name, but by nickname? We have to call him
> la.cribes. to call him by name?

I want to add that within countries where Spanish is the official
language, is common to find names like:
Consuelo
Margarita
Soledad
Pastor
Purificación
Concepción
Rosa
Linda
Bella
Amado (which in Lojban is {selpa'i}, one of those "nicknames")
Pura
Mercado (this means "market" and it's a surname)

This list is what I could list from the top of my head. All of those
are used as names and are "content words" too. So, "presumably"
*nobody* would give anyone a nickname? Think again.

mu'o mi'e betsemes

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