anaphoric pronouns, reduplicated connectives, right ends of various constructions (to match the intentions, not just fit the rules). That'll do for starters and all of them about practical things. Whether cmevla are brevla is definitely not in the list; it is about saving a handful of lines in a grammar.
Well, it depends upon what you mean by a real users group. I don't know what the figures are for Lojban (nor how they might be arrived at) but, at the moment, at least Klingon, Dothraki, Na'vi, and toki pona that I know of claim followings in the hundreds (again, I have no idea where the numbers come from). As for simplicity, assuming there were some objective measure of that, I doubt that Lojban would do that well against, say, toki pona, even setting aside the problem of learning 10,000 words or so.
Even Esperanto is simpler -- for educated Westerners -- than Lojban (even including vocab learning).
Don't worry about splitting the community; it never was nor ever could be a unity. We will go on, squabbling every inch of the way and yet come up with a decent language at any given point and any given speaker.
(Note: speaking as a logician, there is a right way, or at least several equally right ways, and as a result, a large number of wrong ways. None of those are listed above but are high on my personal list.)
From: v4hn <me@v4hn.de>
To:
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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 08:06:12AM -0700, John E Clifford wrote:
> And,of course, others of us think that what needs discussing is grammar, to get it right.
> Vocabulary arises as it is needed but we are way ahead of any uses in that area.
> How we put that stuff together, however, is what makes for a logical language,
> and there there are apparent gaps and inconsistencies.
There is no "right".
What's the huge inconsistency of cmevla not being brivla?
I followed the thread but apparently this is
neither about "gaps" nor inconsistency.
It's about changing things that work and worked fine for
quite some time just because people call unnecessary "simplifications"
progress - Lojban ba'e already is the most simple language (with a real user group)
I know - instead of focussing on making the language more usable in
everyday life (which I would call progress).
Additionally, such discussions only
split the community
even further until everyone got "his/her personal xorlo".
It's just that probably none of them would then ever be
implemented for everyone.
v4hn