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Re: [lojban] [oz] Use of elidable {cu}


On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:

With regards to compound tags, don't you have to understand the rules anyway to get the correct meaning?

If you follow the official rules, yes.
 
Can you give an example?

Things like "ze'i co'a" being fine, but "co'a ze'i" oficially being really "co'a ku ze'i".

One problem with that is that "lo ze'i co'a broda" is fine, but "lo co'a ze'i broda" is not, although you can always cheat by using "lo co'a ja'a ze'i broda".  
 
The way I would rather do it is:

term-1 <- sumti / ( !gek (tag !selbri-1 / FA-clause free*) (sumti / KU-clause? free*) ) / termset / NA-clause KU-clause free*

which means that the tag will not be absorbed as a term if it's directly followed by a selbri-1 (in which case it will be absorbed by the selbri rule),


That is a mid-ground more appropriate for an eventual proposal. I would support it.

In production, though, I still prefer to always use {ku}, because I find {gau se ka'a ko'a} and {bai gau se ka'a ko'a} confusing for the same reason: I keep expecting the selbri they refer to.

Yes, it's more of a theoretical than a practical issue. Very few tags are actually used in the tag ku construct, and having more than one in the same sentence is rare.

mu'o mi'e xorxes
  

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