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Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete



Other news. Semantic categorization. Any given tag can now be found not more than in one column. So if you selected "Links" in "klesi C" you can now be sure that you didn't miss other words with the same tag in other coumns.


2014-06-15 12:33 GMT+04:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:
Most important grammar words are now in "klesi B=Grammar word".

I removed most places from them. In order to express "language" places I added {uenzi}="x1 is a text in language x2" (etymology: Chinese "wénzì") since {bangu3} has to be specially treated to be converted into "text".


2014-06-08 21:46 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:


On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

.i mi pleji lo nu mi lumci lo kumfa vau fo lo nu do ctigau mi
.i mi pleji lo ka lumci lo kumfa vau do lo ka do ctigau mi

.i mi pleji lo sicni do lo plise

Which solutions are correct?

In my opinion, the first and third are definitely correct, and the second (I think you meant "lo ka [ce'u] ctigau mi") is probably correct but requires some justification, which I'm planning to write some more on.

tanru and gismu are both predicates, their meaning is always a relation. valsi are more general in what meanings they can have, the meaning of some valsi (gismu, lujvo, fu'ivla i.e. all brivla) is a relation, but the meaning of most cmavo is not a relation.

Can u give an example of gismu, tanru with  all place filled?

I'm not advocating these by any means, I think grammar words are particularly messy and could do with some unbloating, but this is how I read the current definitions:

zo nelci cu gismu lo ka ce'u ce'u nelci kei lo nelci ce'o lo se nelci zoi ke nel ke jo'u zoi ke nei ke jo'u zoi ke nelcy ke jo'u zoi ke nelci ke

lo'u mutce nelci le'u cu tanru zo mutce zo nelci lo ka ce'u xi pa mutce lo ka ce'u xi pa nelci ce'u xi re kei kei lu mi na mutce nelci lo tersu'i stura be zo tanru li'u

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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